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 Hard to get on plane!!
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perskem
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Vancouver washington

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first time running new boat
95 nitro 190dc
94 merc 2.5L xri
10" JP
24" trophy
5700rpm's 20psi 56mph GPS 2.5" below


boat is having a really hard time getting on plane. takes off and points the bow to the sky and sits there for quite a while at 4000RPM, then it will slowly drop the bow and take off. I have taken out all plugs in prop. this is with full gas tanks and all gear with a co angler. I have a feeling if I fill the livewells it wont get on plane.

whats going on here how can I fix this. do I need a weed ring for the prop? is the setback to big on the JP?


1995 Nitro 190DC
Mercury 2.5L 175HP EFI

2003 Ford F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 5.4L ProCharger Stage 3 kit 9psi
6in fabtech lift 35" Procomp X-Terrains



DLaborde
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Pineville La

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got the same problem on my 200sx skeeter with same motor, in the dog days of summer with a full load livewells full it is almost impossible to get up, my boat needs viagra! sorry i cant help but waiting for someone who can, my top end is good once its up though
fastman151
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For the most bang for the buck.....put a foil on the cav plate!!! I have a Bryan's foil on my boat because it looks good and functions well (jumps right on plane and allows me to run the boat on plane at a lower speed). I've heard alot of good things about the 300 SE Sport from BPS. For that heavy nitro, it just might be the ticket!!!!
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I im'd bryan does anyone know his email? the 300se looks a little goddy.
I have been reading up on the foils's and people are saying that they are loosing 3mph. but I dont see how this is posable when it shouldnt be in the water at top speed. Also one guy said that it made his whole boat lays flat at top speed, I still only want a few feet of the back in at top end. do these eliminate back wash and roostertail?

any other ideas? or is the foil the correct fix for this?


1995 Nitro 190DC
Mercury 2.5L 175HP EFI

2003 Ford F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 5.4L ProCharger Stage 3 kit 9psi
6in fabtech lift 35" Procomp X-Terrains

fastman151
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Hopelawn NJ

 Re: Hard to get on plane!! (perskem) » Reply  Edit


The foil will only help with the hole shot and with being able to run the boat on plane at a slower speed. Should have no effect on top end as the foil is out of the water when you run on plane.
If you want some help with back wash, consider a hole shot plate which bolts to the bottom of the jackplate. As a benny it also might give you a little help out of the hole!!
For what it's worth...you might want to try plugging up some of those vent holes to keep you from "blowing out" the prop on your hole shot.
perskem
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Vancouver washington

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do most people just make their own holeshot plate? thanks for the help waiting to hear back from bryan


1995 Nitro 190DC
Mercury 2.5L 175HP EFI

2003 Ford F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 5.4L ProCharger Stage 3 kit 9psi
6in fabtech lift 35" Procomp X-Terrains

rude power
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bland va.

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Im running almost the same boat ,just replaced a rude 150 to the ho and the foil makes a good difference when getting on plane in these boats,before the foil had to run about 26 to 28 mph to stay on plane now I can run 16 mph and stay up, its like your already on plane when pull out with mine,but I have the xr111,SR by stingray,and I did lose a mile or two on top but I dont run 75 to often,I have heard to stay away from the ones called doel fin


model#E225FHLSIF
SERIAL#G04956186
01,225,HO,1;86 gears 93,nitro 190

bkfish
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Katy Tx

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94/ Nitro 190 DC- 93/Johnson 175 Fastrike
23" Tempest Plus @ 3.25" below/ 6" plate
Transom wedge for more + trim
65 gps. @ 5800 rpms.- 3sec. holeshot @ 3200rpms.
There's no way I'd hang a 10" plate on the back of mine in
fear of leaving my transom at the dock. I realize you just
purchased the boat, but man that's alota plate. I'm not a setup
guru but that is probably the culprit. I got 1.86 gears just like
you and I tried a 24" Trophy and all it did was turn alot of r's.
Maybe someone else will jump in here but if it was me, I'd
try to sell the " big 10" and go with a 6". Your transom will
thank you for it. You need a lift prop.23" Tempest Plus,
Raker w/ pvs. Don't know if you'll be able to turn any 3 blade
24" with you're partner, tourny load, gas, etc.
Good Luck

perskem
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Vancouver washington

 Re: Hard to get on plane!! (bkfish) » Reply  Edit


I was planning on getting a new JP. the one that is on it I have to adjust on the trailer, was thinking about getting a 6" hyd. I asked todd if he thought it was to big and he said it would be fine. I have a feeling the JP is causing alot off this and if all I need to do is buy a foil and its fixed than cool. but am I really gaining anything having the 10" plate? or should I just go to the 6" plate and get rid of this whole problem?


1995 Nitro 190DC
Mercury 2.5L 175HP EFI

2003 Ford F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 5.4L ProCharger Stage 3 kit 9psi
6in fabtech lift 35" Procomp X-Terrains

jr88fan65
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Severn Md

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I use to have 95 190dc nitro great boat and performs well. I had a 91 xr4 small hub. I ran a 22 lazer and i got 59-61 @5600 on 6" J/P I dont remember what I hat the jackplate set at.A BAD DAY FISHING BEATS A GOOD DAY AT WORK
dr. seuss
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south bend in

 Re: Hard to get on plane!! (DLaborde) » Reply  Edit


my skeeter has a great hole shot and top end



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RiverRat200

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Pineville La

 Re: Hard to get on plane!! (dr. seuss) » Reply  Edit


dr suess, wats your top end on your sx? you got a jackplate?
 


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