Correct, if it were a disease we should be looking for a cure. The only way we carry on as a species is by heterosexual behavior. If a illness came along that stopped a persons ability to reproduce- we'd be working hard to find a cure.

I'd say the desire to be with another person of the same sex is more of a handicap than a disease. We shouldn't discriminate against people, but we should try to help people.

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I'm waiting for the faith debate between you two to resolve if all sins are equal or not

I'm curious what this fact does to the "disease and/or lifestyle" choice arguments??

It is my fault, if you must know. I am the one who misspoke. I will not go back and edit my statement though, because what I said is what I said.

1997 zx202c / 200 Yamaha HPDI

I have never stated my belief one way or another because frankly i dont think anyone would care what I thought Nice try though

No it would not, if two married homosexuals moved to Maine their marriage would not be recognized by the State of Maine.

+1000 Great post!!

if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN

Incest is against the law for multiple reasons that cover the full spectrum of religious, social, health, and family issues. The argument that it is somehow is the same as gay, consenting, adults is not relevant.

As far as multiple spouses, isn't that an issue in some Christian Church sects?

If you dont want to put your beliefs out there, why do you feel the need to question mine? My posts, which you obviously took offense, were not directed at you, only to those who were so inclined to read them. My opinions and beliefs are mine, if you dont like what I have to say, ignore me. Easy enough.

1997 zx202c / 200 Yamaha HPDI

So are you saying they are bisexual or homosexual? Are you saying that a dolphin will ONLY have sex with another dolphin of the same sex or that they are "over sexed" and will do both males and females? I think there's a big difference between being willing to have sex with anyone for the sake of sex verses being homosexual only.

By the way, I'd be against homosexual dolphin marriages.

I would say no it isn't..

Hmm, and the health, religious, social. and family issues between homosexual males is not in that spectrum? What would be the difference? Adult brothers are consenting adults, they can't reproduce, what is the problem if it is their preference? Multiple spouses and husbands would have to be legalized along with homosexual marriages - why would we say no? Once we go down the road where do we draw the line? If the courts will protect fetishes and preferences who determines the ones that are just too unnatural to be OK?

Who does determine what is just "too unnatural" to be OK?

At times in the history of this country, and even today, there are state laws that dictate what is "natural" between a husband and wife.

Who do you feel is qualified to tell you what can and can not happen in the privacy of your own home, in the sanctity of your own bedroom?

It was against the law in this country for interracial couples to marry. All the way up until 1967.

Warren Jeffs

I have a Nephew who is gay...I don't know of anyone in our family who did not know this from the day he was able to speak except for maybe his father who was in denial..Now apparently according to some of the Doctor Phil's on this site this child decided to get "attention" by acting like a female at 2 years old...I guess He decided to get shit on and assaulted for his entire life...you know for attention as some of you have stated

I had a lot of the same mis information as most of you before this came into my family and i saw it with my own eyes. I could choose to be one of you pretend macho hero's and tell him he is dead to me for fear someone thinking im gay for accepting him in the way GOD gave him to us..Or i could love him just as much as i do all my nephews and nieces...The only difference between him and my other N&N is i actually do feel sad for him...He has a long tough life ahead of him for being and acting in the way GOD made him

Still have to laugh at the bible thumpers preaching from a book about loving fellow man while spewing hate on fellow man

Ah to be caught up in the moral debate.... once again this is still a DEMOCRACY and the people have spoken. An individual did not decide the outcome of this vote, the majority of voters did.

"We the people" ring a bell to anyone else here?

Don't consider them to be a Christian sect, personally, based off belief structure.

Discrimination against a person should be illegal. Validating unnatural behavior by saying it is normal is not needed to stop discrimination. Marriage is between a man and a woman and I believe 31 of 31 states have agreed with this premise so far.

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I would like to ask any here who believes being gay is a "Choice" if they have anyone close that is gay..I actually find it comical some of the responses that have been written here today.:

Because I know gays who have switched back and been happily married for 20 years. I also know of heterosexuals who left their spouse and turned gay. Preferences change over time. Heck, I'm divorced, my preference in spouses changed for the better (still a woman thank god).

If you are born gay - then you are handicapped right? Someone born with a defect would be handicapped - right?

Discrimination was not always illegal or even discouraged. If fact it was state and federally sanctioned.

At the time of the Loving vs Virginia case 70%-80% of the people in this country supported the laws that prohibited interracial marriage.

So a mental illness perhaps???